Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

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Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:49 pm

So, is this Schmidt Rubin, Model G11, Calibre 7.5x55 Swiss actually the Infantry Model 1911?
This is the one I am currently bidding for................. :SWI:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby joseyclosey » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:52 pm

It is, looks canny Duncan.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:41 pm

Thank's Joe. Still 3 days to go on the auction :(
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:22 pm

Think what you may have is a Kurzgerwehr M1900 that was converted to the 1911 configuration. Done by Eidgenössische Waffenfabrik in 1913-20. "Accepting 7.5mm Ordonnanz 11 cartridges, they had four-groove rifling". The reason I think this is because the front sight sits further back from the muzzle and doesn't have the big sight ears. Got this notion out of Rifles of the World by John Walter

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:51 pm

Hi hi!

You are bidding on an 1896/11.

The Swiss upgraded their ammo from GP90 to GP11 (7.5X55mm). They were able convert the older 1896 rifle to the new round by replacing the barrel, sights, magazine and some other things. At this time they also grafted a pistol-grip onto the stock. If you look close you can see the grain change at the grip.

I also have a 96/11 and it is lots of fun. The bolt is old world engineering and sounds wonderful.

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:55 pm

I knew we made Arch a moderator for a good reason. :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:50 am

Thank's Arch, I feel more positive about it than ever :razz:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:14 pm

Ha ha. Helping helps.

Here are some helpful pics of Renata, my 96/11.

The rifle sight is set up with 300M as the lowest setting. So you'll find that it probably will be hitting high at 100 if your loading replicates the military load.

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The butt plate is strange and convex at the the bottom. Sir Mix-a-Lot would like this rifle.

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If somebody asks you if the barrel is free-floating you'll be able to say it's sleeved.

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Somewhere in its life the rifle in the auction had its bolt grips replaced. These were made of bakelite. They could turn brittle and so a replacement is not something to worry about. You can just see that the ones in the auction are (at least the top one but I bet they were just switched out together) two piece. See the little line around the top of the cylinder shape. Here is a pic if Renata's original ones.

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:25 pm

You'r working overtime Arch :lol: :lol:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:10 pm

Some froggy bastard out bid me :cry:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:06 pm

:cry:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:32 pm

Hey, I won the bids after all! Got it for €260,00 / $280.00! It's coming from Germany so I need to put some info together....Watch this space :roll:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:28 pm

Coming from Germany so could take 6 weeks of buggering about with paperwork but I think it will be worth the wait :D :D :SWI:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner Delta » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:52 pm

Why don't you just drive there and pick it up, Europe isn't that big...

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:48 pm

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:06 pm

Congratulations!

Six weeks is a long wait. Quicker than a baker though ;)

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:41 am

ArchFluffy wrote:Congratulations!

Six weeks is a long wait. Quicker than a baker though ;)

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Yup & better quality too!
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:10 am

Sent the customs declaration off yesterday so the ball is now in their court.
Have done a little research and found that the serial stamped on the bolt, barrel and chamber is the same so the rifle was made in 1906. Total produced 6000 - Serials between 316001 & 322000, mine being 320**7. :SWI:

Have ordered a Set of Lee Pacesetter dies from Henry Krank's and am about to order 40 rounds of PRVI Partisan 7.5x55 Swiss, 174 grn FMJ-BT from ESP in France. That will give me the cases to reload. Need to source some Hornady 180 grn SPBT . Powder will be VihtaVuori N140 - probably start with 40 grns.

If anyone has any different ideas let me know :)
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:03 am

Bullets will arrive on Thursday - YES!
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:40 pm

Just bought it for $16.........
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:31 pm

Great for keeping snow out of your muzzle. Just remember to take it off before you go to the range. :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:35 am

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:36 am

Looks like you are sitting on ready now..... as soon as the rifle arrives.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:58 pm

Duncan, You sure are getting ready!

That muzzle cover is for the K31 and K11 though.

You want one like this:

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Now you need a K31 too!

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:19 am

Don't get me started Arch.............. I thought it looked a bit short but for that price what the hell! I'll trade you for a jar of Marmite :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:51 am

Yum city.

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:53 am

Ooooooooooooooooo, getting serious Arch :roll: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:18 pm

Soon you won't need me!

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:38 pm

Arch - we will ALWAYS need you my man! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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