Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:59 pm

Ooooooooooooooooo!

Kathy Bittermann <k.bittermann@waffenankauf-bock.de>
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to me
We apologize, but because of the holiday time, the shipping has been delayed somewhat. Your gun was sent yesterday.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Regards

Lydia Kostikov


No bloody tracking number though :mad: :mad:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:01 pm

Bastille Day? Guess that means it's the French who are at fault. No mail on Friday. :FRA:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:28 am

That's right but I got a tracking number this morning........not that it tells me anything useful................ :roll:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:50 am

After shouting at the buggers again yesterday they promised it would be shipped last night....................

IT WAS :shock:


I might actually see it next week :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:19 am

That's good news....I think. Hope it arrives and is all as expected and not like that black powder objet d'art you ordered from England a while back.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:49 pm

Me too BUT, it has to get here first...........
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:20 am

Your buying experiences are just amazing.

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:57 am

As they say Arch, Shit Happens :loco:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:34 pm

It's now in France :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby joseyclosey » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:11 pm

Hope you aren't holding your breath until it arrives at maison Andrews ;)
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby blackisler » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:05 pm

Ahh Well Duncan at least you still have a k 11 that you can use and if your rifle is substandard you can post the bayonet and other bits and pieces to me , They should fit my k11 :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:02 am

It has arrived in Bordeaux and is being prepared for delivery :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:24 am

No sooner posted the last one and it arrived :razz:

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Will open it when I get over the shock :lol: :lol: :SWI:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:27 pm

Just unpacked it and am about to take some pics. Initial observation is that it needs a damn good clean, the wood needs refurbishing and the metal bits have some surface rust in places. Nothing serious though.
It chambers and ejects rounds with no problem
Rifle serial is; 320057
Magazine serial; 154540
Stock serial; 99156 - St Gallen.
No owners label under the butt plate.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:27 pm

Heavenly days! It arrived! No wonder it was a bit rusty. It was a long journey. :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:23 pm

Just finished stripping it and taking photo's. The stock serial matches the barrel/breech/bolt so the only piece that doesn't match is the magazine....................Question! What kind of finish should the wood be?
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner Delta » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Glad you actually have it in your own hands!!! ........ :mrgreen:
It took 4 months (122 days) from the time you won the auction, that's a long time...... :shock:


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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:49 pm

Images taken today of the G11 as it was received yesterday ( not in bits! ). It needs some TLC, especially the bore! :SWI: :SWI:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:58 pm

Yay! It's finally arrived!

Okay, when I decide to refinish my old Swiss rifles I use this recipe. It's supposed to be the old one for the old walnut stocks.

30% Turpentine
30% Linseed oil (raw, not the boiled kind)
30% fruit (wine) vinegar
10% bee's wax

The hardest part is heating the liquid to melt the wax into it. Or maybe finding raw linseed oil is the hardest part. Waiting for real bee's wax and not some petrol paraffin substitute to arrive in the mail is really hard too.

Be careful heating all this flammable stuff to melt the wax! Once the wax is dissolved into the mix it stays dissolved. You can melt the wax in a separate container and the pour it in but it will harden when it hits the cool liquid. That's why you'll probably end up needing to heat it all anyway.

Rub it on with some kind of lint free cloth. Try applying the first coat warm. Drying times may be long time because raw linseed oil does not have drying agents in it like the stuff found in a hardware store. I think I left my Vetterli stock up for a couple of weeks for the second coat. Waiting might be the hardest part. Yeah, it is.

But the finish that this gives is wonderful. Not super shiny and not that sort of plastic feel that some finishes give. It's more like satin. With the wax in it I bet you can buff it to a shine if you want. I only ever use two coats.

You can store the finish in a can for other projects.

Hope this helps! :SWI:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:14 am

The plan is this Arch.......
Because the range will be closed for the annual holiday until August 18th I am going to give all parts a serious cleaning and de-rusting. The bore needs some serious cleaning as well.

The only part of your recipe I don't have is the vinegar but that is easy to find. A bain marie pan should mix everything without a problem.

Before I do I will put a couple of rounds through it in the garden to make sure it cycles OK. :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:35 am

Yes, You must check it for functionality. :D

Besides that the only other thing I can think of is to remind you to use care when cleaning the stock to preserve the markings and not round off any edges.

It's going to look great! :SWI:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:03 am

It used to be a mantra among the "serious" collectors to do nothing cosmetic to any curio and relic. The idea was that , like antiques of other sorts, an avid top dollar collector would discount any refinish, no matter how close to original, as deflating historic value. "As is as found" with the assumption that some "cleaning" and gun oiling allowed is the best policy if you want it to maintain the best possible value.

I tend to follow the mess with it as little as possible notion if you ever plan on selling it. However, since you are probably going to hang on to the rifle until you go toes up and your next of kin will probably have one of your French buddies dispose of them for her for whatever the nearest Frenchman will pay, it doesn't really matter if you took a notion to paint it pink with green stripes as it shouldn't be a concern.

By the way, the nicks and gouges on the butt you might want to keep... the Swiss troops used to operate and drill in the snow and the snow grabbers or cleats on the boots would have a tendency to mark up the butt stock.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:33 am

To be honest, at around $280 I doubt it will make any difference to the value if I cleaned up the stock. I bought it to shoot not to collect so I am going to have fun and use it.
Even if I have bought something like this one http://www.naturabuy.fr/Carabine-22Lr-Schmidt-Rubin-K31-Hammerli-item-4035115.html I would still be shooting it not 'collecting' it........
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:11 pm

That example you link is someone looking for the greatest fool. Of course if he comes along.... :loco:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:23 am

The bolt is in good order, no rust or damage that I can see except for the eye if the safety lever, just some dust in the crevices......... :roll:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:47 am

Cleaned bore - perfect condition :)

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:30 pm

So..when are you going to shoot it?
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:06 pm

The whole world is against me............Range closes for the annual holiday on Monday and does not open again till August 18th. I could go tomorrow BUT I have jobs to do here as always.............Going to put a couple of rounds down the field opposite tomorrow ( I hope ) just to make sure it works :oops:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:17 pm

Ohhh! Do it on the live chat.

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:08 am

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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