Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:41 am

And finally, before I ship Roberts off to him, a pic of them both together.......

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:47 pm

ArchFluffy wrote:Yay! It's finally arrived!

Okay, when I decide to refinish my old Swiss rifles I use this recipe. It's supposed to be the old one for the old walnut stocks.

30% Turpentine
30% Linseed oil (raw, not the boiled kind)
30% fruit (wine) vinegar
10% bee's wax

The hardest part is heating the liquid to melt the wax into it. Or maybe finding raw linseed oil is the hardest part. Waiting for real bee's wax and not some petrol paraffin substitute to arrive in the mail is really hard too.

Be careful heating all this flammable stuff to melt the wax! Once the wax is dissolved into the mix it stays dissolved. You can melt the wax in a separate container and the pour it in but it will harden when it hits the cool liquid. That's why you'll probably end up needing to heat it all anyway.

Rub it on with some kind of lint free cloth. Try applying the first coat warm. Drying times may be long time because raw linseed oil does not have drying agents in it like the stuff found in a hardware store. I think I left my Vetterli stock up for a couple of weeks for the second coat. Waiting might be the hardest part. Yeah, it is.

But the finish that this gives is wonderful. Not super shiny and not that sort of plastic feel that some finishes give. It's more like satin. With the wax in it I bet you can buff it to a shine if you want. I only ever use two coats.

You can store the finish in a can for other projects.

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Well I got all the makings together and boiled them up today. After they were well mixed I poured them into a basin to set and put the pan down by the burner I had been using - it caught fire :shock: :lol: Iput it out and turned off the gas............
I gave the wood a clean with a horrible mix I use for the job and then washed it with 90% pure alcohol. I then coated the wood. It went on quite easily and I put 2 coats on the forend and polished them up. Looks great Arch.
Picture to follow in due course. (I even dis an old Afghan Martini-Henry butt and that looks good too :cool: :cool:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:49 am

Arch, you don't need the vinegar, it wont mix in........ :roll: :roll:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:32 pm

Looking forward to the pics!

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:57 am

Ready for the range :razz: :razz:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:54 am

I take it you will leave the frog sticker at home...and remember to remove the muzzle cover. :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:18 pm

:bigsmile: Clever people the Swiss, you can't get a sight picture unless you remove the muzzle cover :roll:
As for the bayonet - I like to see what difference it makes to the score so will take it first time out. :razz:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner Delta » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:35 pm

You need to take at least 200 rounds to the range to make it worthwhile...... :mrgreen:

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:13 am

Wish I had 200 rounds :shock: Ammo is a bit more expensive here Vern :roll: :roll:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:59 am

Whatever you do make sure you take pics!

It sure looks pretty!

Makes me want to buy another rifle. Hmmm, where to start? I guess I'll get a sling, and muzzle cover and reloading dies and supplies and a bayo... :razz:

Seriously though, it looks great!

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner Delta » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:31 pm

Just checked the prices of 7.5x55 and it's around 65¢ (and up) a round delivered, for the exact same
RUAG 591-1100 in your photo.
That's pretty expensive for ammo here too..... :shock:


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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:04 am

I bought 40 rounds of PRVI Partisan at a gun fair in July, it cost me $1.18 a round and that was a good price here :shock:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:26 am

Just won this cleaning kit for K11 / K31 on NaturaBuy but it will be OK for my G11. I am not going to use it - a bit like the bayonet :lol: :lol: :lol:

$22!
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:25 am

Cleaning kit arrived today ans is exactly as per the photo. The grease bottle is full too! :SWI:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner Delta » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:35 pm

Is the angled steel tool some sort of chamber cleaning tool or maybe a handle for the cord ???

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:12 am

It's a chamber cleaning tool Vern, the straight part is covered in wire mesh.
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:26 am

Yes, a chamber cleaning tool.

You can see that additional mesh came with the kit too. The pull-through has an opening mid way along it that can accommodate a patch or mesh.

That kit looks like it's in great shape!

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:36 pm

DAMN!

Arrived at the range this afternoon at about 2:40 pm and ALL the full bore ranges were taken. All I could do was pay my subs for next year and bugger off home.......
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:23 pm

Why didn't you just wait around a while. How many bullets could a Frenchman afford anyway? At least a couple of them would have shot off their dozen rounds and returned home before long. :bigsmile:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:11 pm

Works for pistol and .22 rifles but not for full bore. Once they are taken that's the afternoon gone............
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:32 am

Well, range tomorrow afternoon, lets hope this works out...............
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:38 pm

:razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

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First 6 roundsd at 50 mtrs

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Second 5 at 50 mtrs

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First 6 at 100 mtrs..................I couldn't see the target clearly but it shoots well - the trigger is as smooth as a piece of silk :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :SWI: :SWI:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:10 pm

At 50 meters the series of shots are grouped low at first and then grouped high. What kind of a sight hold were you using on the front sight to produce those results?
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:22 am

Remember that this rifle's sights are set at 300 mtrs.

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First rounds with the sights at the base of the target. Second with the sights at the base of the black.

The 100 mtr target was so blurred I couldn't see exactly where I was shooting :shock: :roll: :lol:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:21 am

Ok that enlightens me on the subject. I guess it was all the center of moving body theory that put the sights at 300 yards and not the center of stationary target at any distance other than 300. :D
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby ArchFluffy » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:50 pm

Nice shooting I say.

Those targets get tiny at 100. Sneaky!

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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:56 am

Going to change my rest, the one I am using is not steady enough................ :cool: :cool:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby DuncaninFrance » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:07 am

I just bought this on NaturaBuy for €26 / $31 / £24

Rifle cleaning kit, carbine, Schmidt Rubin K11, K31, automatic weapon :D :SWI:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:39 am

Was each soldier issued one or was it one to a squad like 19th Century adjusting and cleaning tools? If every Swiss rifle was kept by the man issued it in civilian life are their a lot of them floating around in Swiss flea markets? Just a wild ass notion that crosses my mind. :roll: :shock:
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Re: Schmidt Rubin, Model G11

Postby Niner Delta » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:04 pm

I bought one of those kits for my HK91, excellent kit, brand new, both containers full of gray grease.
Way better than any other military cleaning kit I have ever bought, and I have several.
Although I only paid less than $18 total on Ebay........ :mrgreen:


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