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K11
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:36 pm
by blackisler
Well just bought myself a K11 just have to wait for it to arrive will post pics when I get it
Re: K11
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:10 pm
by Niner
I'll bet even money yours arrives before Duncan's.
Re: K11
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:07 am
by DuncaninFrance
Re: K11
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:46 am
by Niner
In the US if you buy a firearm for someone else , not kin to you, it's called a "straw purchase" and could be breaking the law. .....hmm.... European firearms laws have a few cracks in them that haven't been filled yet it seems. Interesting.
I've wondered about that straw purchase stuff. It always assumes that the transfer is part of a transaction entered into from the get go to do something nefarious; like buying a firearm for someone who is legally forbidden to own a weapon for some reason. But in the US, even if all parties are eligible to own a firearm there could be a problem if the end receiver is hidden from the seller. But that isn't completely understandable to me as to where the evil lies or becomes self evident.....unless the end owner is a forbidden to own a weapon or is intent upon doing some crime with it.
If Citizen one sells Citizen two a weapon directly no straw purchase has been established. If Citizen two...say a year later ....sells Citizen three the weapon there is no straw purchase because the end transaction wasn't , by common sense, entered into with intent latent in the original transaction. If you shrink time between the transactions to one day or two however, then it would be likely seen as a straw purchase entered into by citizen two on behalf of citizen three. Depending on what becomes known or what may otherwise happen, some parties of the last transaction could do some jail time.
Re: K11
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:11 pm
by DuncaninFrance
Not relevant Robert.........
1) Robert tells me he wants to buy a firearm
2) I bid on that firearm and my bid is accepted.
3) I am the buyer because MY bid is accepted and I pay for it.
4) The seller will send the rifle to me - the buyer, because the paperwork is correct.
5) I register the rifle with the local Prefecture as mine.
6) Robert sends me the correct payment by PayPal.
7) I send the rifle to Robert and at the same time notify the prefecture that I have sold it on.
Simples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: K11
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:04 pm
by Niner
You buy a firearm owned by someone in one country while residing in a different country for someone in a third country and ship the weapon among the three countries. That's not what I'd call a straw purchase. I'd call that a hat trick. "Simples!"
Re: K11
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:26 pm
by Aughnanure
Down here it's a bit different, all sales must be through a licensed dealer or a club armourer and in some instances (such as distance problems etc.) through a police officer, but one may legally buy a long arm and lend it to a person who is appropriately licensed; there is no limit to the time of the loan.
As the recipient has no paperwork to go with the firearm the usual thing is for the lender to give the borrower a letter covering the loan.
We're just as simple
Re: K11
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 10:30 pm
by ArchFluffy
Can't wait for pics!
-ArchFluffy
Re: K11
Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 2:41 pm
by DuncaninFrance
Re: K11
Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:33 pm
by Niner Delta
That's a really nice looking rifle, someday I would like to shoot one of the straight pull rifles as I have
never tried one. The front sight adjustment is very clever, haven't seen that style before......
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