Berthier Chargeurs

The country that avoids war and the country that fights but has a hard time winning have been combined. The Swiss made some excellent firearms and the French made some unique and occasionally inspiring ones. We have added the Belgian and Dutch since they are neighbors.

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Berthier Chargeurs

Post by 1886lebel » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:01 pm

Different type of Berthier Chargers

All Chargers were made from folded steel (acier plié)

Chargeurs Modèle 1890

Chargeur de Carabine et de Cavalerie Modèle 1890 du premier (1ème) type

1st Type Charger for the Carbine and Cavalry Model 1890

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These were produced in a dark black-blueing (bronzé noir) or were coated with gray zinc (zingué gris)

Chargeur Modèle 1890 du deuxième (2ème) type

2nd Type Model 1890 Charger

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These were produced in a dark black-blueing (bronzé noir), black phosphate (phosphaté noir), coated with gray zinc (zingué gris) or left in the white
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Post by 1886lebel » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:07 pm

Chargeurs Modèle 1916

Chargeur Modèle 1916 du premier (1ème) type

1st Type Model 1916 Charger

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These were developed by Sous-Lieutenant Vibert in March 1916 and were originally made by Établissement Bliss et Cie from March 1916 to March 1925. These were produced in a dark black-blueing (bronzé noir) only

Chargeur Modèle 1916 du deuxième (2ème) type

2nd Type Model 1916 Charger

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These were made from March 1925 up to 1949 or 1950 and were produced in a dark black-blueing (bronzé noir), black phosphate (phosphaté noir) or were coated with gray zinc (zingué gris)
Vive la République Française, le Lebel et le poilu
Verdun 1916: "Ils ne Passeront pas" "On les aura!"
Fusil d'Infanterie Modèle 1886 Modifié 1893 dit "Lebel"

Vive le Pinard !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfM1sFqIK0
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Post by 1886lebel » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:13 pm

Additional Information

Chargeur d'Exercice

X ... A 8mm wide "X" in the middle of the top portion of the charger denotes this as a drill/exercise/training charger

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Chargeur à Réfectionné

+ ... A 8mm wide "+" on the base in one of the corners denotes this as a re-used charger. If several number of "+" 's is present it denotes how many times these were re-used

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PK ... It is believed that these were made in Poland by Painstowa Karabinewka Fabrika but at this time we are still researching this to confirm this. All of these that have been observed were coated with gray zinc (zingué gris)

Santa Fe/Japan ... These were reproductions that were made in Japan for Golden State Arms located in Pasadena, CA through thier Santa Fe Arms Division. These are marked on the base "Santa Fe" and "Japan". They made both the 3 round 2nd Type and 5 round 1st and 2nd Type chargers

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FRANCE ... These are usually marked in white paint with the letters "FRANCE" on the base of the charger and were applied in the USA by various importers denoting that they came from France.

Unidentified Charger

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This could be either a prototype model or an unfinished Chargeur Modèle 1890 du deuxième (2ème) type
Vive la République Française, le Lebel et le poilu
Verdun 1916: "Ils ne Passeront pas" "On les aura!"
Fusil d'Infanterie Modèle 1886 Modifié 1893 dit "Lebel"

Vive le Pinard !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfM1sFqIK0
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