1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

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1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby TomcatPC » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:59 pm

Here is my one and only Martini-Henry Rifle. This rifle was purchased with the cash I saved when I quit smoking a few years back (2007). Yes, it is from the "Nepal Cache", and from Atlanta Cutlery.

It is a 1888 Mk.II made by Birmingham Small Arms and Metal Company.
Also in the photo is a Pattern-1876 Bayonet from 1887.
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby Niner » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:36 am

You must have gotten one of the special select and working offerings. A true collectible with British production marks. I got one of the as found local made Nepal rifles. It took some doing to get it to come close to functional. ...and as I value my life I wouldn't try shooting it.

Your rifle looks to be a much better collectible choice than mine. Have you attempted to fire it?
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby TomcatPC » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:05 pm

I had a lot of cleaning up to do on mine, it was covered in "gunk". I still need to do a few things like tighten the fore-end up a bit somehow. I need a spring for the back sight "slider", as mine will not stay in place when the sight is raised up. All in all, I'm happy with the rifle, I'd love to have an earlier dated Martini-Henry, but I'm just grateful to have one right now. There is a bit of pitting on the breech end of the outer barrel that is hidden by the fore-end, from what I have been reading, this seems to be common with these "Nepal Cache" rifles, also the markings on the action body are not the best, but they can be read all right.

I have not fired it yet. Mainly because at the time being cash is short and buying loaded cartridges, or buy reloading kit to load the .577/.450 Calibre Cartridge is a bit out of my reach right now. Also living in inner city Toledo, Ohio, there is nowhere to shoot for cheap/free, legal and safe, really miss Alaska now LOL. but given time and money, I do intend to fire it. I had a gunsmith give it a once over and he gave it a thumbs up.
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby Woftam » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:33 am

A belated welcome to the forum Tomcat, I've been on holidays so haven't had a chance to say gudday earlier.
Nice Martini, still looking for a MH myself so I envy you lucky buggers in the US with access to the Nepal Cache and other goodies.
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby Aughnanure » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:13 am

I remember when The Grange Rifle Store in South Australia had them for 5/- each.
Didn't bother to buy one as I had better ones back in NSW.

Long time ago :bigsmile: I was eighteen at the time.
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby DoubleD » Mon May 16, 2011 1:56 pm

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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby Niner » Mon May 16, 2011 4:58 pm

I bought one of those "battle field pick ups". You know, made by the original Kiber Pass specialists and probably actually issued to some local troops. I posted about this adventure once.

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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby DoubleD » Mon May 30, 2011 8:22 am

Actually Nepal is about a thousand mile west of the the Khyber pass and the guns made there are a bit more sophisticated than the stuff made in Darra.
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby Niner » Mon May 30, 2011 11:04 am

Actually, I wasn't thinking about a geographic mileage difference between the actual Khyber Pass and wherever the artisan was when he made the rifle I ended up with. You have me there. I was thinking about the metallurgy and tolerances and quality control that was probably more or less based on the "if it looks like a duck" principle rather than any more sophisticated quality tests. Any indigenous rifle made anywhere in that part of the world, before arsenals like Ishapore, would have to be equally suspect from the standpoint of lacking any significantly evident quality control..... at least in my mind it would.

It's actually pretty amazing what those artisans with few to no modern tools or machining technology made in the past and can make in the way of weapon copies today. I have a Pakistani friend who has actually seen such village artisans work on the frontier of Pakistan and the things they can make with so few modern tools. It is like alchemy and art all blended together the way he describes it. But that doesn't mean they know anything about pressure created by the explosion of powder or the amount of stress suspect steel and assorted parts made of the same can tolerate. Give a rifle like that a hundred plus years to rust and gather dust like a shovel in storage no better than a tool shed and it becomes even more suspect.


Double D. What do you think of the supposed British marked Martini rifles that SOG offers for much less than the Nepal cache rifles and seem to be in better general shape....from the advertising photos at least? The messageboard cognoscente seem to think SOG is offering Khyber Pass rifles and not offering the genuine British issue rifles they claim to be offering. What do you think DoubleD? Would you shoot one of them? Do you consider them more substantial if they were made in the Khyber Pass than wherever the ones out of Nepal were made? Was one made in the Khyber Pass a hundred years ago more substantial than one made a quarter century ago? How about one made last week for the American trade?
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Re: 1888 BSA & MC Mk.II Martini-Henry Rifle.

Postby DoubleD » Tue May 31, 2011 2:40 pm

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