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SVT-40

Postby Drake » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:57 pm

A few photos of my 1940 Tula SVT-40. This is arguably one of my favorite rifles to shoot since it tames the 7.62x54R so well. It cycles well on the lowest gas setting but has an ejection jam every twentieth round or so so I normally keep it on the second lowest setting.



Bayonet fixed. It took me a while to find one with handles that reasonably matched the stock. Obviously it's not serialed to the rifle.



A closeup of the muzzle brake.





The muzzle flash at an indoor range. Firing this rifle outdoors is comfortable, but indoors I need to wear plugs and muffs to keep my ears from ringing. The muzzle brake has a nasty side effect of directing more of the report back at you.

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Postby Dutch Mosin » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:11 am

Great rifle and fantastic pictures Drake.

Congrats.

I love to take mine to the range too.

Here are some pictures.

[url]http://milsurpafterhours.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3800[/url]

BTW: I just love the muzzle flash picture.

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Postby Drake » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:04 pm

Glad to find some SVT shooters here.

I've got a couple questions about this rifle if anyone can offer advice-

Given the reports I've read about the stocks cracking due to the lightweight wood the Soviets used I'm always interested in anything that might prolong the service life of this rifle.

I've heard the other 7.62x54R semiauto rifles are picky about ammunition weight, but it doesn't seem to be the case with the SVT-40 due to its adjustable gas system. I've been limiting it to ammunition in the 147gr-150gr range and keeping the gas setting as low as possible while retaining reliable cycling. I typically shoot 203gr loads in my Mosin Nagant but there is a noticeable increase in recoil force between those and any of the surplus loads.

At one point while disassembling the rifle, the recoil springs and guides exited violently and disassembled themselves. I haven't been sure which order the springs go in. One of them has a double coil at each end which leads me to believe there is a specific order. I've been looking at any disassembled SVT pictures I can find but the evidence seems to vary.
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Postby Dutch Mosin » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:16 pm

Drake,

I've read about cracked SVT stocks too, but personally I have never experienced any problems.

I reload the ammo for my SVT myself and found out that she likes the lighter bullets best.

Here's a link

[url]http://milsurpafterhours.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4199[/url]

I also reload the ammo for my Mosin Nagants myself.

In these bolt action rifles I only use reduced loads.

The 220gn cast bullet with 18gn of VithaVuori powder behind it works just fine for both my M91/30 and my M39.

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Postby Drake » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:30 pm

The action on my SVT shifts a bit front to rear so I'm looking into bedding the stock to avoid cracking it.

I haven't moved into reloading yet, but the SVT-40 definitely poses a unique challenge since it's so hard on the cases.



The two cases on the left are from my SVT and the two on the right are from my 91/30.
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Postby Drake » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:28 pm

I picked up an Acraglas Gel kit from Brownells and tried my hand at bedding the SVT's stock to get rid of the longitudinal movement of the action.



Here's the patch at the rear of the stock, there was a bit of a gap there.



The gaps were smaller in these spots than I thought, so I've got a bit of excess epoxy there.



Here's just a shot of the action to show the spots where it contacts the stock.

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Postby dhtaxi » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:50 pm

Interesting stuff keep us up to date.
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Postby Drake » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:46 pm

A few more photos. I picked up a spare bolt carrier in the white and reblued the one I had. I never really cared for the plum color.



Bolt in the white, as they were originally issued:





Blued bolt, a bit more stylish.





I picked up on the trick to post resized images, so I'll continue to do that from now on to prevent screwing up the forum formatting.
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Postby Niner » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:48 pm

Neat what you did with the bolt carrier, Drake.

Also really neat that you took the time to resize your photos.

Thanks.
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Re: SVT-40

Postby Drake » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:04 pm

Some new SVT-40 photos.





The new sling is very similar to the PPSh/SVT-40 WWII era sling, but is adjustable. I believe it is Bulgarian. While it may not be period-correct it is very handy on this rifle and fits perfectly.





Some comparison shots between the SVT-40 and M91/30 PU snipers.







The SVT's mount is far enough rearward to still allow the use of stripper clips, unlike the Mosin-Nagant's.

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Re: SVT-40

Postby Drake » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:16 pm

A few more.



Scope and mount removed from the rifle pictured with front sight tool, gas port wrench and scope cover.



Some group photos.








Lastly-

A video I took loading, firing, and executing a watermelon with my SVT-40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf78Ahycy8
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Re: SVT-40

Postby redadeg » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:33 am

Hi!

A german SVT rifle shooter with an question:
I saw your great photos. You use the same mountbase than me (ok, i´m new, i have never shot with it, because i still need a scope for).

I bought the base here in germany with missing "security pin".

On your photos it is missing, too (ok, in photo without mounted on the SVT it is there.

I did not check the whole thing.
Is it possible to shoot without this pin? The mount fits quite good, and im wondering if it is really needed.

Can you please explain me, what the pin does? I can see not an function.

2nd) There a button whitch can be pressed from inside. But if i tighten the screw on the top, it is fixed. I did not understand the working or the sense of this button, too.

I´m confused, and it would be very cool, to get some informations. I can not find anything in the www about it.

And maybe a good photo of the pin would be good to see. Maybe its possible to build one...

Or, where can i buy such pins?

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Re: SVT-40

Postby oldironsights » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:16 pm

redadeg!
Welcome to After Hours.

The security pin that you speak of is actually a push button that allows the mechanism to engage & lock into a notch found only on true sniper variants of the SVT40 rifles.
The notch is found at the top rear of the receiver just behind the action cover.
Either Drakes rifle does not have this notch or Drake does not want to scratch & wear the bluing from his SVT40 rifle.
That is why you see the security pin missing from the mounted photos & installed on the stand-alone photos.
There are current reproduction SVT40 sniper scopes & mounts coming out of Czech Republic & possibly Ukraine that are very good.
If you have a SVT40 without the sniper notch, cutting a notch in your non-sniper SVT40 will cause the rifle to lose value upon resale to a collector, as this modification was done by a collector.
Most SVT40 rifles that I have fired are not accurate. They are too lightweight for the powerful round & the old stocks do not fit snug anymore.
They sure do tame the recoil of the 54r round though!
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Re: SVT-40

Postby Drake » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:26 pm

redadeg wrote:Hi!
Can you please explain me, what the pin does? I can see not an function.


Here are some photos of the crosspin. I have no idea where to buy one, however.









As oldironsights stated, the pin is used to retain the mount to the rifle. A notch is machined at the top rear edge of the receiver for this purpose.

My rifle lacks the notch and I'm not willing to cut it as it's one of the easiest ways to reduce your rifle's value. The pin is not exactly necessary for shooting, however. The mount is such a snug fit I need a mallet to install and remove it from the rifle. I've noticed the mount tends to take one or two rounds to 'seat', after which it groups better. Since I don't notice this phenomenon with iron sights the best explanation I can offer is the mount base slides forward slightly as the recoil impulse moves the receiver underneath it.

Also as stated, SVT's aren't tack-drivers. My M91-30 shoots truer, but it's not quite like firing a 2" snubbie at 50 yards. I bedded my SVT's stock as a preventative measure to keep the wrist from cracking - the receiver had a bit of fore-aft movement beforehand. I should also mention it is very important to fully tighten the gas piston! If you do not, you'll notice your groups starting to get larger and larger as you keep shooting.

About the screw on top and the button: This is how you adjust the mount's fit on your rifle. When you turn the screw here-



It compresses the bumper here-



By doing this it allows the mount to seat further forward on the rifle - to line up with the milled notch (if your rifle has one!). Ideally you adjust the screw so you can slide the mount all the way forward and hit a bit of resistance as you compress the bumper to install the crosspin. My mount fits so darn tight that I can't even notice it. If you're going to shoot without the crosspin slot, I would tighten the screw fully to compress the bumper, push the mount all the way forward so the bumper isn't trying to work the mount off the rear of the rifle.

If you check out the Youtube link I posted a bit earlier, you'll see me shooting it without the crosspin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf78Ahycy8

I haven't done this extensively yet, but I've put about 100-150 rounds through it with the scope mount installed like this. This seems to be the consensus I've found on other forums - it's better to fit the mount on with a mallet than to mill a slot in the rifle and forever mar it.
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Re: SVT-40

Postby redadeg » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:30 am

Hi again and thanks for the photos!

Here in Germany a SVT is about 300 USD. So maybe i will drill in a notch. But before i have to look, where i can make such "pin". I work nearby an Sheet metal processing. So maybe its possible for them. Thanks for the photos again.

Here 2 photos. OK, not good ones, like yours, Drake (i use one of yours a Desktop wallpaper).

Unfortunately i can not see your youtube video. Have you removed it?

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BTW: Its clear: My 91/30 shoots better, too. But because of stupid german laws, i have to use SVT with scope. Image
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Re: SVT-40

Postby Drake » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:45 pm

I'm not sure what the heck happened with the link, but here's the corrected link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf78Ahycy8

I don't know a great deal about German gun laws - you can only own self-loaders if they have optics installed?
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Re: SVT-40

Postby redadeg » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:43 am

Drake...here in Germany it is not easy to have the permission to buy a gun. Specially not an pistol/revolver or an Semi-Automatic-Rifle.

You have to be 1 Year in a shotting club, make 18 Trainings per Year and after that you have to make an examination about weppons handling. Buying a safe to store ist, and for every gun (max. 2-3 SAR) you have to make an request WHY you need it. Means: Searching for a discipline, where you have to own THAT gun.

So i have an German G3 vor shoting disciplin with Scope 12X, an Arsenal AK-Clon vor ironsight discipline and the SVT for Ordonance discipline with 4 X scope.
Thats the deal here ;)
You have to make 1 competition each year, otherwise your guns are gone :(

BTW: If you drive a little drunked with you car -> Guns are gone

Shooting in garden, like you...haha......maybe better not to think about.

About competitionresultats i dont care. but its nessesary to make them...

But thanks for the help. I will try to shoot without pin. Maybe opening the rear "hole" to prefent moving back?

And about "modifying the weapon". Until 2003 here in germany was fobidden to own a gun with muzzle break, holes for cooling the barrel, and magazines.
So look, how SVT weappons loke like before 2003. Castratet. So its not a big problem here to modify one with the notch.

Dont cry by looking on the picture. But such SVTs are avaiable in tons here in Germany. About 100 USD.
Normal uncut SVTs about 300 as i wrote.

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Re: SVT-40

Postby redadeg » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:09 am

Hi! Me again!

I have finally installed my Accumount-Scope with the base (without pin). It fits strong, does not move while shooting.

But next problem:

I am not able to go with the "crosshair" where my shot goes. It is much to far down and left. How can i fix the problem? No "big" adjustements possible at the scope? And the mountbase is fix, too.

Ok...i made some "slow-motion" movies and a picture:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBiQ1i8diE0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXlx1KsPkVo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrHwvVHK_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8uqO3JgwI
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Re: SVT-40

Postby Eric » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:34 pm

Hi, I´m Eric from the Netherlands :NET: (living in Germany though ) and I´m new here in this forum. Bought myself an SVT40 a few months ago (1943). I am still waiting for my scope, they seem to be pretty difficult to become in Germany. Mounts are pretty easy to get (about 170-190 Euros a piece). My gun dealer will get scopes from russia by the end of the month. Cannot wait :bigsmile:
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Re: SVT-40

Postby Niner » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:04 pm

Welcome to the site ,Eric. Good to see another member from the Netherlands. I look forward to seeing more from you in the future. Dutch Mosin has been a member from the beginning and I'm sure will be glad to see another countryman.
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Re: SVT-40

Postby joseyclosey » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:45 am

Hallo Eric, welcome to MAH.

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Re: SVT-40

Postby Dutch Mosin » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:33 pm

Hallo Eric.
Leuk om een keer een landgenoot aan te treffen op deze site.
Zoals Robert al schreef, ik hoop je vaker aan te treffen.
Veel plezier.

And now....for our non Dutch members....the translation.

Hello Eric.
Great to see a fellow countryman on this site.
Like Robert wrote, I hope to see you more often in here.
Enjoy.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martin

BTW:
Eric....keep us posted on the scope for your SVT40.

Just to be sure....have you checked this site to find your scope??
http://www.egun.de/market/list_items.ph ... nt&quick=1

...or this one.
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3 ... 4dd202c54e
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Re: SVT-40

Postby Lalunette » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:23 pm

Hello from Canada !!

I stumbled on this website while looking for SVT-40 images...

I recently purchased a '43 Tula SVT-40 and will be firing it for the first time this weekend. I already own a '34 Tula hex Mosin Nagant so an SVT-40 was the perfect complement.

I'm also happy to see Dutch representation on this board as I spent a year living in Het Land van Maas en Waal 30+ years ago and still love my dear kaaskops (cheeseheads) !!

Anyhow, I look forward to posting pics of my CBT-40 and of my shooting exploits !!

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