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Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:36 pm
by ArchFluffy
Nice!

Yes, I realized I was wrong after I posted and looked over the pic again. No need for sights on what I was thinking of.

:mrgreen:

-ArchFluffy

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:45 am
by DuncaninFrance
Glad I didn't get that, it's an abortion of a piece :shock:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/0 ... -zip-22lr/

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:35 am
by deadin
All I can say about the "ZIP" is that USFA must be humoring some designer/engineer that they feel has some other value to the company. (or it's from the owners 12 yo son....)

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:28 pm
by Niner Delta
At first glance I thought it was a movie prop, and then realized it wasn't.......... :shock:
It's hard to imagine that someone actually thought this Zip gun was a good idea...... :roll:


Still have no idea what's in the original post......... :mrgreen:

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:10 pm
by deadin
Still have no idea what's in the original post......... :mrgreen:
Well, there's only two clues left.
One is the maker and the other is the intended usage.

Which one do you want first??

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:21 pm
by Niner Delta
Usage, because I can't imagine what it would be used for............ :mrgreen:

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:42 am
by DuncaninFrance
Niner Delta wrote:Usage, because I can't imagine what it would be used for............ :mrgreen:

Snake sexing :shock: :lol:

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:28 am
by deadin
Usage..... Designed and prototyped in 1987 for use by the US Olympic Team in the 1988 Olympics. Don't quite know what held it back, but probably some sort of rule changes.....

(Just to add to the frustration, it is out there on the internet,but is a real bugger to find.)

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:59 am
by DuncaninFrance
deadin wrote:Usage..... Designed and prototyped in 1987 for use by the US Olympic Team in the 1988 Olympics. Don't quite know what held it back, but probably some sort of rule changes.....

(Just to add to the frustration, it is out there on the internet,but is a real bugger to find.)
I know it, I tried :shock:

Re: Here's one for Duncan (Getting Even!!)

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:26 pm
by deadin
I would love to actually see this gun. As far as I can tell it was designed to “overcome” the ISU’s banning the Russian MC-3 (The “Upsidedown” Gun) after the 1956 Olympics with the ruling “The axis of a gun barrel shall not be lower than the upper part of the shooter’s wrist.” All in an effort to reduce or eliminate “muzzle flip” during the Rapid Fire event.
It appears that the barrel axis is as low as possible without breaking the ISU rule. Then the recoil spring is cantilevered to the lowest point by what appears to be a “cage” that connects it to the bolt/slide up at the top. Supposedly the recoil action on the spring would counteract muzzle flip from the upper barrel.

Anyway, it was Smith & Wesson that designed it. You were close with “Nail Gun” as it’s nickname was the”Staplegun”.

Here are a couple of links:
https://books.google.com/books?id=D8qXd ... un&f=false
And the Russian MC-3:
http://www.americanrifleman.org/article ... -down-gun/